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Hungarian Rhapsody no2 ideas?
yoshiimitsu asked:
Alot of people are gonna think I'm crazy, but I've been playing about 4ish years, and I don't really know how to sight read music very well at all. I had been learning various castlevania pieces and eventually got bored with them, so I decided to jump to something that looked a bit more interesting, Liszt's hungarian rhapsody no2.
Alot of people are gonna think I'm crazy, but I've been playing about 4ish years, and I don't really know how to sight read music very well at all. I had been learning various castlevania pieces and eventually got bored with them, so I decided to jump to something that looked a bit more interesting, Liszt's hungarian rhapsody no2.
Naturally I started on the Friska, and I'm up to the main theme now, the part that everone recognizes. I can play it at a normal speed, and most of the parts at a faster speed as well, but I can't seem to play the C#'s with one thumb fast enough to play it like somebody like Jon Nakamatsu or Marc Andre Hamelin. I know that playing it slow at first is the way to go - and that has worked for everything I've ever played but this C# one thumb thing. Even the octives of the main theme are not a challenge for me, just these rapid C#'s..
Is there a specific way I should be going about learning the C#'s differently? or does it just take extra long?
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August 27th, 2009 - 19:53
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Well, you’ve got to start somewhere with virtuoso techniques, so this is as good a place as any. The point is that you can only learn to master these ‘splashy’ effects at *full* speed **from the start**, right from the off. No ifs and buts. In other words, you have to have solved the rapidly repeated single notes, then spanned within a pinned octave, and then the saltato oscillating pattern over multiple octaves issue elsewhere, for instance in any number of Czerny’s op. 740 études that stress that particular playing problem — and there are of course scores more études to choose from.
Liszt does not present that effect to you here as a ‘learning experience’ — he’s assuming you’ve got the problem licked as a matter of course, and now he’s going to exploit that ‘to a higher level’ to produce the ‘jaw dropper’. I wouldn’t batter away at the difficulty in the process of learning this old faithful war horse. Extract the problem, and use workaday études to get beyond this sticking point, and when you’ve cracked it that way, get back to this extended application of the principle in the Rhapsody.
(Hint: all the single key c# repetitions must be fingered 4321, 321, or 121 regardless of whether the spanning octaves are being held — and there are no thumb repetitions here, except (almost) in the 51515151 episodes of saltato over multple octaves. And the foundation speed you’re aiming for is MM ¼ = 132 for the Friska throughout.)
Good luck! (Give me a shout in my mailbox if you need more.)
August 29th, 2009 - 11:05
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Liszt wrote incredible pieces of music, most of which he didn’t want anyone else to play. Why? Is it possible for you to find a video or DVD of someone playing this piece to be able to watch? Another thing you might want to try is go over to a college/university and ask one of the students to play the Rhapsody #2 and the technique he or she uses for the C#. Good luck.
August 31st, 2009 - 10:47
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Watch people on Youtube. I love no 2 and Ive seen many videos of people doing it. I will never move that fast.